For you Thothies out there...

Monthly reading circle for Thoth veterans as well as for newbies

Moderator: Michael Sternbach

Forum rules
The Thoth Reading Club will be held monthly. Both newbies as well as experienced Thothies are welcome to join. Sign up is on during the first week of every month. Readings should be posted during the following week. Full feedback is expected by the end of the month. Menbers are encouraged to remind one another by PM if a reading or feedback is overdue; should help be needed, please contact a Mod or Admin. The club guide may specify a specific spread or topic at the beginning of a Reading Circle. Use the Thoth or one of its clones. This is a learning forum, so participants are encouraged to comment on and ask questions in regards to active threads, including those they are not participating in. Club guide may chime in with occasional commentsand suggestions. And here is the most important rule of all: Have fun! :)
User avatar
Serpentwand
Global Moderator
Posts: 945
Joined: 05 Jul 2017, 11:05

2dogs reading for CharlotteKAT

Post by Serpentwand »

CharlotteKAT wrote: 22 Jul 2017, 08:38 How can I best protect myself from and deal with stress?
It's a simple question so a one card answer should be sufficient -

2 of Wands (Dominion)
A very fiery looking card with the two crossed Tibetan dorje thunderbolts, angry looking heads and big flames, Mars in Aries. My immediate impression is you need to dominate and stamp down on the things that cause you stress - don't get mad, get even madder :evil: .

Looking at the book I have (Fiebig & Burger) suggests working out what you have the power to control and what you do not, putting the hopeless situations out of your mind and applying your full energy to those where you can make a difference. For example your vote in the Brexit referendum did count, but unless you live in a marginal constituency your vote in a UK General Election does not so there's little point in agonising about it. Divide and conquer by breaking your challenges down into smaller parts, attacking and defeating them one at a time when you have gathered the necessary strength and determination. Also watch out for where you are divided yourself, such as with the conflicting demands from your job and your family - don't concentrate exclusively on one of them and forget about the other. Maybe some thought about setting firm boundaries is needed here.

The Thoth card has got to be the main one here, but just to add a couple of additional points of view I drew a card from the Solar System and Elements decks too:

Saturn: The unique feature of the rings and being the outermost planet known to the ancients both reinforce that point on setting firm boundaries.

Holmium: Used in MRI scanners due to its ability to concentrate magnetic force supports the idea of focussing your full power on a small part of a problem at a time.
Previously known as 2dogs.

Link:
BBcode:
HTML:
Hide post links
Show post links
User avatar
Michael Sternbach
Founder
Posts: 704
Joined: 06 Jul 2017, 06:13

Michael feedback for Nemia

Post by Michael Sternbach »

Nemia wrote: 22 Jul 2017, 09:04
Michael Sternbach wrote: 22 Jul 2017, 05:16
Nemia wrote: 22 Jul 2017, 05:12 Let's go ahead. Do you have a question, Michael? (I never participated in a reading circle so my apologies if I don't do it properly). I have my dear old pocket Thoth next to me :-)
You are doing fine, Nemia!

My question: What should I do to improve my finances?
I did a simple three-stairs spread for you and looked at the bottom card.


Image

The stairs go up from the situation right now via factors you can change to the solution.

The first card is the 10/Cups, Mars in Pisces, a slightly strange meeting that heats up the waters of Pisces until they're vapor - you can see on the picture that the water is hot, and the top of the Tree of Life is bubbling up as if there was hot vapor accumulating. Lots of energy, great potential to move something forward - but neither Pisces nor Mars really know what to do with it. Full gas on zero. It's all a great "it could be great if".

And now this whole potential is standing on its head and the If disappears even farther. You dissipate part of the energy that might go into money-making on things that give you personal happiness. Which is great in itself, but you must be able to afford it.

Sometimes you have a fleeting glimpse of the perfection you might reach if you used your whole potential, if you were just a little bit more target-oriented. All this energy you have, you know to focus it so well - but much of it leaves the system without giving you much in return.

It would be nice to have more money than just-enough and a bit (the chalices are not empty but overflowing only on the middle pillar). But you won't sacrifice personal happiness and become a money making fiend. Basic Pisces of this card makes that clear. If anyone avoids becoming a little screw in a big system it's Pisces - with the emotional resistance that doesn't make revolutions.

So that's the situation right now. Lots of energies, delayed twice - by the character of the card itself and by the fact it's reversed. That's what irritates you now.
Exactly. I like to follow my inspiration in all my activities, and it's very hard to make myself do something that doesn't come to me naturally or, as you put it, that doesn't make me happy.

Which at least by conventional wisdom is often hard to reconcile with money making.

I do have Mars square Neptune (that's the ruler of Pisces, for you astro newbies reading this) in my chart.
The next step is the Queen/Wands, reversed as well. Her colours are similar to the 10/Cups, and even the composition in V shape is similar. I don't think she's an aspect of yourself - we're not asking about your personality or inner life but about your circumstances, and I'd read her as important person in your life, tendency to see her as woman. Wife, co-worker, business partner, an important influence in your life. Her energies are blocked, too. She could do a lot to open the pipes in your potentially powerful Tree of Life with its boiling waters, but either you don't give her a chance or she can't do it for her own reasons.

Together, you're an extremely powerful team. She has a tendency for self-blockage sometimes. That doesn't help.

It's another combination of water and fire. Lots of steam all around. Humanity took a while until it learned to reconcile fire and water and make good use of steam. If Pisces in Mars and the Water of Fire really work together, wow. As long as they don't, it's still a nice and fertile atmosphere with rain clouds... but what you need to make more money is a healthy dose of soil, Earth.
This is without a doubt a reference to a woman close to me, in whose chart the Mars sign Aries as well as Pisces prevail. She usually shows up in readings as the Queen of Wands, which has just the same combination of astro energies according to the system of the Golden Dawn. I do feel she could give me much more support just saying the right word at the right moment, or at least avoiding the wrong word, but alas, this happens far too rarely. So much of our energy is being dissipated, when in fact we could have great potential joining them...
The third card is not giving it either. We're still in the Fire region, but the Aeon has a totally different quality. It's the penultimate trump card, and it has accumulated so much wisdom that it can make real changes. Actually, this card tells you that you can have success and make money without the pragmatic Earth, the rational Air that are missing here. It's a spiritual card that tells you a higher truth than pragmatism and reason. Aeon tells you that everything I told you until now was wrong. It's not true that you waste good energy by blowing it into the air on non-profitable matters.
<Sigh of relief>
Just the opposite is true, you don't do it enough. This is like Nietzsche's re-evaluation of values. It's possible for you to use your own and your queen's talents and potential by following the way of the Fire, by doing what you do now but on a much bigger scale.
Yay! My Sagittarius Sun loves big scales!
If the dead can rise (like in traditional Judgement), if Harpocrates can be born and a new aeon manifest itself, then you can dare to do the crazy and give birth to a new idea. Keep it quiet though. The ש at the bottom of the card is echoed by the Child's fingers on his lips - shshsh, don't tell yet what you're planning. Boil the idea in the back of your head a bit more until it's ready to be put into action. This reading doesn't go far enough to tell you HOW to do it. But you have a plan.
Right, I actually have multiple plans - but implementing them seems to take too much time and other prerequisites for them to work as practical solutions to practical problems. When in fact, according to this reading, all it might take would be more follow-through. :!:
And what does the bottom card tell us? 3Swords, reversed again - your troubles are rooted in a disillusionment in the past. Saturn's oppressive leaden fist laid waste on your nicely balanced plans and ideas. It shouldn't have influenced you for so long and you have to let it go.
Now that I think about it... In the past, I enthusiastically told others about some of my projects on several occasions, and their reply was that there is little chance for my ideas to work out. In one case, the scepticism came from a well known writer of esoteric books whose seminars I attended and who actually took an idea I had recklessly told her about and turned it into a book of her own!

I thought that I got over all those discouragements in the meantime, but maybe they are holding me back more than I was aware...
Concerning timing - Aeon will approach with your next round birthday, anniversary or other round number that symbolizes a cycle.
Image
If this is about my next round birthday, that would be in two years time. I was hoping that things could shift earlier. Maybe there is another cycle that I am not considering at the moment... Or maybe that's just the time I have to factor in for real progress to happen.

Anyway, this is a most accurate and helpful reading. You did a magnificent job, Nemia... Thanks a ton! :) :) :)

Link:
BBcode:
HTML:
Hide post links
Show post links
User avatar
Nemia
Global Moderator
Posts: 1673
Joined: 05 Jul 2017, 05:02
Location: between the mountains and the sea
Contact:

Re: Michael feedback for Nemia

Post by Nemia »

Thank you! I'm relieved. You know I find it hard to trust my intuition, for me, that's the hardest thing about tarot.

Link:
BBcode:
HTML:
Hide post links
Show post links
User avatar
Nemia
Global Moderator
Posts: 1673
Joined: 05 Jul 2017, 05:02
Location: between the mountains and the sea
Contact:

Re: For you Thothies out there...

Post by Nemia »

Are we continuing here?

Link:
BBcode:
HTML:
Hide post links
Show post links
User avatar
Michael Sternbach
Founder
Posts: 704
Joined: 06 Jul 2017, 06:13

Michael reading for DDwarks

Post by Michael Sternbach »

DDwarks wrote: 22 Jul 2017, 05:57 What do I need to know about my decision to finally write *that* book?
I've been avoiding it for years!
Three cards without labelled positions.

Prince of Wands, Empress, 8 of Wands (Swiftness)

Summary: Lust
Shadow card: Art

Looking at the cards closely, the Prince of Wands and the Empress show quite a few parallels, but in an opposite manner. Both express openness of the heart though - thus, they serve as a vessel for creative forces.

With the Empress, this takes the form of contemplation in an internal (but perhaps also external) place of beauty. Find your sweet spot! Somewhere you feel home, safe, nurtured, and inspired.

The Prince of Wands however is in fast movement, pulled by a red lion. While the way the Empress holds her arms and white lotus symbolizes quiet susceptibility for artistic inspiration, the open arms and blazing flames of the Prince of Wands show his readiness to express what he has received freely and joyfully! He has the courage to do so - he doesn't let pedantic concerns hold him back.

Both of these energies are needed for your endeavor: Yin and yang, water and fire - in proper combination! In the union of these opposite approaches lies your hidden potential, which Art as the shadow card speaks to.

Eight of Wands foretells the powerful creativity set free by this alchemical union, expressed by the coming together of two octahedra, issuing eight lightnings. Mind you, all three cards in the spread have some kind of bow on top; here it's a rainbow, all the colors of your being in harmonious assemblage as a result of the synthesis shown in Art (both that card and this one belong to Sagittarius). Swiftness let's you tell your story with no further procrastination - al you have to do is to get there!

This whole process is carried by Lust: The woman ecstatically riding the lion, receiving fiery inspiration from above in the cup she is holding up, unaffected by the wanly praying figures in the background that represent the overstated concerns that once held her back. The many faces of the lion again represent the various aspects of your being that long to come together in the writing of your book.

Link:
BBcode:
HTML:
Hide post links
Show post links
User avatar
Michael Sternbach
Founder
Posts: 704
Joined: 06 Jul 2017, 06:13

Re: For you Thothies out there...

Post by Michael Sternbach »

Nemia wrote: 26 Jul 2017, 15:35 Are we continuing here?
I just did! :grin:

Link:
BBcode:
HTML:
Hide post links
Show post links
User avatar
CharlotteK
Posts: 987
Joined: 05 Jul 2017, 16:59

Re: For you Thothies out there...

Post by CharlotteK »

Hi all, I'm so sorry I haven't posted yet. Having the work week from hell and have spent almost no time with my decks this week. I should get time to do my reading and give feedback on Friday. I hope that's OK!

Sent from my D6603 using Tapatalk


Link:
BBcode:
HTML:
Hide post links
Show post links
User avatar
Nemia
Global Moderator
Posts: 1673
Joined: 05 Jul 2017, 05:02
Location: between the mountains and the sea
Contact:

Re: For you Thothies out there...

Post by Nemia »

Of course it is! We know you are busy. Have a lovely day!

Link:
BBcode:
HTML:
Hide post links
Show post links
User avatar
Michael Sternbach
Founder
Posts: 704
Joined: 06 Jul 2017, 06:13

Re: For you Thothies out there...

Post by Michael Sternbach »

CharlotteKAT wrote: 26 Jul 2017, 16:50 Hi all, I'm so sorry I haven't posted yet. Having the work week from hell and have spent almost no time with my decks this week. I should get time to do my reading and give feedback on Friday. I hope that's OK!

Sent from my D6603 using Tapatalk
No problemo, Charlotte. Thanks for the heads-up!

Link:
BBcode:
HTML:
Hide post links
Show post links
User avatar
DDwarks
Global Moderator
Posts: 258
Joined: 05 Jul 2017, 02:37
Location: All over the place!

Re: For you Thothies out there...

Post by DDwarks »

Friday is the day for me too.
I'm only managing to be on here a few minutes throughout the day at the moment but tomorrow..I have the day to myself:D
Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.

Link:
BBcode:
HTML:
Hide post links
Show post links
Post Reply